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@cult Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit that makes billions of dollars, mostly from Google.

Firefox exposes people to Google’s tracking and has “experiments”/telemetry on by default. It is not private by default (thus, it is not private, period).

If you’re frustrated by the people calling out these facts rather than by a corporation that makes all its money from surveillance capitalism while purporting to care about privacy, your frustration is fundamentally misplaced.

@aral The Foundation has goal set in stone; "promote the open source Mozilla browser". The Moz Corp. only exists to enable monetary deals with search engines and nothing else.

Firefox exposes people to Google as a default search engine as a way to fund development of the browser, but, in other countries the foundation is making deals with other search engines instead. I suggest you look up how the experiments work.

The Firefox browser is the only browser standing up to surveillance capitalism.

@cult “The Firefox browser is the only browser standing up to surveillance capitalism.”

Bullshit.

You do not stand up to something by being fully funded by it. Greenpeace doesn’t stand up to environmental spoilage by taking billions from Exxon Mobil. Look up institutional corruption; Mozilla could be its poster child.

You want a browser that does stand up to surveillance capitalism? See Gnome Web. It’s private by default; the only definition of privacy that’s worth a shit.

@aral @cult Symbolic participation or a symbolic lack thereof does not equate to mediations that work to actually put an end to harmful practices

@kel @aral @cult if we're being honest, gnome web is just as guilty as firefox in the 'working with google stuff by default' department phoronix.com/scan.php?page=new

but i mean the GNOME foundation was founded in part by IBM, Compaq, and Sun, and Google is on its advisory board, so

I guess you do not stand up to something by being fully funded by it.

@fenny @kel @cult Oh, ffs, it’s all different levels of fucked up, isn’t it? At least it has DuckDuckGo by default (fuck knows where that will go in the future as they have VC too).

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@aral @kel @cult the only way we'll escape the corporate surveillance state is by dismantling it. there's only so much individuals can do to avoid it. it's a societal issue, just like poverty, public health, climate instability, etc.

this is what is meant by 'there is no ethical consumption under capitalism'. some form of compromise is made.

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